Showing posts with label Service. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Service. Show all posts

March 20, 2012

50,000km Service

The car had just clocked 50,000km at the end of the 3-yr warranty period.

The car was sent to a regular authorised service center for the scheduled services and to replace certain engine parts under warranty. Upgraded version of firmware from PSA was also loaded at the SC.

Now the lion roars differently...
http://mypeugeot308.blogspot.com/2012/03/lions-roars.html

See also
40,000-km Service
30,000-km Service
20,000-km Service
10,000-km Service

July 05, 2011

40,000km Service

AHW308 has already clocked 40,000km. Sent for scheduled service/maintenance at regular SC. 'BMO' oil and Ori Peugeot's NGK Platinum Spark Plugs. Total expenses for 40,000km-service was RM771.20.

Pt tip at 40000km
Platinum Spark Plug electrodes at 40,000km

Tyres were also replaced with another set of CSC3 225/45/17
CSC3 tyre condition after being abused for 40,000km vs new


Notes:
1. The Ori Battery was replaced foc 18months ago [after barely 1 yr of abuse] and still kicking strongly! Probably will last over 2yrs...

2. The front brake pads/discs are still OK. May be need replacement for the first time at 50,000km. Whereas rear brake pads/disc can 'tahan' much longer.

September 26, 2010

30,000th km Service

AHW308 has done almost 30,000km and ready for the scheduled service/maintenance. Will be sending to regular SC on Monday Sept 27th. As usual I will BMO oil and my choice is Mobil-1 Gold*. This time got FREE umbrella [or Lap-top bag]...
[*Mobil-1 Gold 0w-40 membuat enjin terasa lebih mantap dan solid pada red-line berbanding pelincir 0w-30, 5w-30 dan 10w-30]

Pre-Service Inspection
As usual I did my own inspection prior to sending the car for servicing.

Tyres:
New tyre thread depth = 8mm
Average remaining thread depth is 4.175mm
so, sudah makan 3.825mm/30,000km or 1.275mm/10,000km.

If wear limit is 2mm, the remaining usable thread is 2.175mm, i.e lasts another (2.175/1.275)* 10,000km = about 17,000km (making CSC3 tyres to last beyond 45,000km)

Brake Pads:
Front Bakepads sudah makan about 2/3. May require replacement during next service @ 40,000th km. Rear brakepads only gone 50%

click HERE for my typical pre-service inspection.

The 1.5yrs old car. Just done 30,000km.

updated on Sept 27th
Expenses:
Mobil-1 'Gold' : RM245.00
Oil Filter: RM41.00
Drain Plug Washer : RM3.60
Plastic Rivets [for mud-guards - 2nos.] RM3.00
Labour Charge including 'special request' : RM112.00
Service tax: RM5.60
TOTAL maintenance @30,000km: RM410.20

September 02, 2009

AL4 Automatic Transmission - Pressure Regulation Fault

I used to have a problem with my earlier Peugeot [not 308] AL4-Transmission. It was under warranty, so it didn't incur any direct cost to me except time, fuel and toll. But I learned quite a lot in return at no cost for consultation. I just want to share my own experience on the symptoms so that everyone will take immediate action before it is too late and start to make lots of noise in the AutoForum...

Symptoms
Flashing of the "Snow" or/and "Sports" light then the transmission went into the downgraded mode. In this mode the transmission was locked in third gear to enable to continue the operation of the vehicle following by a loss of power. The downgraded mode sometimes preceded by some very harsh [jerking] shifts. However after stopping and restarting the engine, the transmission would usually return to normal operation.

Most of the time the problem appears at unpredictable intervals. Some incidences were on a daily basis, sometimes may have weeks of trouble free operation between incidents.

What was logged in the ECU?
At SC I was told the following fault code was logged in the transmission ECU: "Intermittent fault. Pressure regulation fault, recommendation/variation"

Cause
Being a technical person I usually ask for the explanation. I was told the pressure regulation fault code was triggered when the ECU senses a difference between the calculated pressure and the actual line pressure in the transmission. The pressure difference was caused by internal leakage. Internal leaks could be caused by mechanical wear, a leak between valve body and transmission casing, incorrect adjustment of the manual valve index spring.

The most common cause however is the pressure regulation solenoid valve.

Diagnosis
The diagnosis was not straightforward, several operations were required to eliminate possibilities.

  1. Transmission fluid
    1. ATF level was checked in the transmission. [Note: Low or high fluid levels are equally harmful]
    2. ATF was placed in a clean container for examination.

    The transmission didn't need to be overhauled or replaced because the fluid sample was normal like fresh ATF, i.e transparent. Fluid drained from a transmission that has been in operation for some time is usually dark in colour and lacks transparency, this is acceptable and not necessarily an indication of an internal fault. Caution was exercised with the fluid assessment.

  2. Pressure sensor
    1. With help of the diagnostic computer the transmission line pressure was checked.
      The following parameters were observed.
      At idle in N around 2.6 bars.
      At idle in D around 3 bars.
      Under full load 2200 rpm: 11.5 bars.
    2. Since there was change in pressures, no need to test the sensor and sensor supply.

    Note: A faulty sensor maintain constant pressure of 6,5 bars. This would also mean that the transmission would be in Limp Home Mode and that the fault is permanent. Since the problem usually was intermittent the pressure readings would check out OK most of the time. Since no other problems have been found so far, diagnose continued...

  3. Solenoid Valves
    1. Pressure regulation valve and the converter lock-up valves were replaced.
    2. 2 seals behind the valve body are correctly fitted. The seals were not replaced.
    3. After fitting the valve body, the selector index spring was adjusted
    4. The multi-function switch was also adjusted.
    5. Before fitting the pan , the 2 magnets presence was assured.
    6. ATF was refilled and adjusted the level.
    7. The transmission ECU software was updated for the new solenoid valve because the older software versions are not compatible with the new Borg Warner valves.

    The operations outlined obove resolved the pressure regulation problem.

    If the problem couldn't be resolved Valve-body probably need to be replaced. Worse case, the whole Transmission required overhaul or replacement.


Important reminders to observe
  1. Only use genuine Peugeot ATF.
  2. The fluid level must be correct.
  3. The correct adjustment of the manual valve index spring is very important.
  4. Adjust the multi-function switch after the valve adjustment.
  5. Cleanliness is absolutely essential when working on the transmission.

Is is good to know...


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August 30, 2009

10,000km Service and DIY General Cleaning/Inspection

1. "FREE" 10,000th km SERVICE
August 1st. 2009 - Sent the car for the 10,000-km 'free service' to an authorised service center from where I bought my308 [almost six months ago] . I brought 'my' own oil. Paid RM64.70 for an oil filter, etc. ECU 'firmware' has been updated too for an additional function that my308 didn't have at the time it left France.

I think this particular Peugeot Service Center is one of if not the best in Klang Valley.


2. DIY SERVICE and INSPECTION
Today myPeugeot 308 just clocked 12,000km after 6-month of average usage. Taking advantage of long weekend [+National Day] I decided to clean and inspect the car inside out.

Step 1 of course wash the car first la...The paintwork still look shiny even though it has never been polished. Only cleaned with car shampoo and applied soft liquid wax once in a while...

Then open up the bonnet and cleaned everything in the engine bay.
After cleaning it was easy to start inspecting/checking. Battery terminal voltage was measured after the engine had been left sleeping for more than one-hour to ensure it was above 12volts.
Reads 12.71 Volts. Looks OK. If it fell below 12.0 Volts while sleeping there must be some troubles with the battery itself or/and the charging system [alternator, regulator, rectifier, etc..].

Next step was to check whether charging system OK or not. After firing the engine and waited almost a minute to stabilise, the a/cond and lightings were turned on. At idling engine speed the voltage should be roughly between 14.0~14.5Volts. More than 14.5 Volts is over and under 13.5volts is undercharged. Reads almost 14.1 Volts. Looks OK, but 14.2 Volts would be perfect. The voltage should be checked regularly to prevent premature death. If it does, hopefully before March 2010 or 20,000th km on the odometer for free replacement.

All hoses and wire connectors were checked for leak or/and loose. Everything was in perfect condition. Just like new. QC was excellent.The sky was overcast. Expecting light showers within an hour or so. The car was then pushed into the garage at ease, no squeaking sound of trapped sand or debris between the pad and the disk, also no problem with wheel bearings. Then crawled underneath to check for traces of oil or other fluid leaks. Also perfectly clean. No leaking, no seeping at all.
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The car was then driven to the front porch. Wheels were removed to inspect braking system.
Brake pads still got 10mm balance. The disks were all worn out evenly, both front disks already 0.5mm thinner on each surface though. Tyres were inspected but no damages found. Worn out evenly with approx. 80% of remaining thread depth.
Wheels were then cleaned and waxed to make them look like new again. No scratch at all hence polishing was absolutely unnecessary at then.

Tyre wells were also inspected and cleaned. Nothing went wrong. Everything in perfect condition. Both in front......and at the rear. The last test was 'pap smear'. To check for how effective the combustion and emission control was. The car was warmed up first. Tail pipe was cleaned from previous deposit of carbon black and then taken for a spin at normal pace. No hard acceleration. Upon returning to the porch a piece of tissue paper is rubbed on the inside surface of the tail pipe and here it is...
Very minimum carbon soot. Relatively clean backside, but a little bit smelly, ha haaa...

By then everything was inspected. Nothing went wrong and the car looked like brand new again... except for one thing though. As tyres worn out, there was a very slight drifting to the side just like my old W124. It was also time to rotate the tyres.

Regarding 'mild' or 'bearable' drifting to the left advices. It is a bullshit and waste of money to go to the tyre shops to adjust toe angle alone in order to rectify it. No way.

Toe-in is actually to correct understeer while toe-out is for oversteer compansation. I bet if all tyre shop mechanics know this.

Its camber and caster angles need adjustment if the car drifts sideways apart from rear axle 'not 90-degree' [perpendicular] to the car axis. If a car cannot be adjusted for camber and caster angles there is a simple way but proven successful. Everybody can DIY simply by juggling tyre rotation [swapping].

The following what I did by taking advantage of the different rate of wear between front and rear tyres.... [after clocking 12,000km]

First I did for LHS tyres. I swapped between FR and RR. Took a spin for a quick test. Pulling to the left was felt even more.

Then I swapped FL and RL tyres. Took another spin. The there is a mild pulling to the left.

Next I changed back LHS tyres to the earlier position. Tadaaaa.!!!.. no more drifting. It seemed that swapping between FL and RL tyres was good enough. The car went perfectly straight at any speed. If drifting persist, I would have to swap between FR and FL or/and RR and RL tyres. "The car looks and feels almost like it was 6 months ago... simply loved it, again." - uncle.D

THE END for today...

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