e.g: Fault Code P1385
you'll get this...
http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/TechnicalResources.aspx
Technical Resources OBD Error Codes
If you have OBD tools that can read error codes but give no description, Permoveo-Euro Specialists has got Auto Diagnostic Technical Resources for you to refer. Just select vehicle manufacturer from pull down menu and enter OBD error Code in the dialog box provided then click on Lookup Error Code.
e.g: Fault Code P1385
you'll get this...
http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/TechnicalResources.aspx
e.g: Fault Code P1385
you'll get this...
http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/TechnicalResources.aspx
Peugeot 308 Replacement Model
Peugeot to launch 308 replacement model, code_named as T91 with new engines in 2013?
The 308 replacement is expected be a much more elegant car than its predecessor with more compact proportions, a reduction in body weight, a higher-quality interior and a range of new engines.
Probably "309" (already been used before) will not be resurrected for the new 30-series while the "301" name was also used by Peugeot in the 1930s.
According to a spy-report, the T91 is shorter than the current 308, slightly wider and will also be subtly lower than the 308, a feature that will be emphasised in its styling, which will take cues from the "208" and SR1 concept car.
Peugeot SR-1 Concept
Sources claim that there will be no three-door version. Instead, the five-door will be given sportier styling to compensate for the lack of a three-door. There will also be a five-door SW estate (T92) and a four-door saloon (T93) in some markets.
Another model absent from the new 30-series line-up will be the CC coupé-cabriolet model. That car will be replaced by a retractable hard-top version of the Peugeot RCZ, a car based on the current 308 platform.
The 308 replacement is expected be a much more elegant car than its predecessor with more compact proportions, a reduction in body weight, a higher-quality interior and a range of new engines.
Probably "309" (already been used before) will not be resurrected for the new 30-series while the "301" name was also used by Peugeot in the 1930s.
According to a spy-report, the T91 is shorter than the current 308, slightly wider and will also be subtly lower than the 308, a feature that will be emphasised in its styling, which will take cues from the "208" and SR1 concept car.
Peugeot SR-1 ConceptSources claim that there will be no three-door version. Instead, the five-door will be given sportier styling to compensate for the lack of a three-door. There will also be a five-door SW estate (T92) and a four-door saloon (T93) in some markets.
Another model absent from the new 30-series line-up will be the CC coupé-cabriolet model. That car will be replaced by a retractable hard-top version of the Peugeot RCZ, a car based on the current 308 platform.
A Reader's e-Mail
An e-mail from a reader about "Peugeot Marketing Theory" ?
I've got no comment to make. Bacalah sendiri...
__________________________________________________________
Hi Uncle,
I am sending you a comment found in a local car forum http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/euro/273579-any-peugeot-308-owners.html
"TR,
yeah. pug drivers in here are just a drop in the ocean!! hahaha :)
anyway guys, i have a bone to pick here.
i think the way aw pug forummers are highllighting issues are only going to shoot themselves in their foot one day... the issue will come back in other forms and bite them. i'll explain what i mean below.
how this happens is like this... they complain openly on the web... this is seen by the whole world, people will then worry about buying peugeot and what happens next? the buying stops and the owners die because - 1) franchise holder won't have volume already (of this won't happen overnight but those ppl in aw are themselves killing the brand by not doing things through the proper channels) 2) no volume = no spare parts availability (franchise holder needs to have volume to be confident to stock up on more parts) 3) no more easy parts = higher prices for parts 4) higher price for spare parts = bad resale value ... and so on and so forth lah. i'm sure you get the point.
so you see, the franchise holder is now trying to build up critical mass. yes there will be small issues here n there like the "to the left, to the left" and battery prices but these are small matters (i'm sure the owners don't think so now lah ;) ) in the grand scheme of things and i believe they will be solved in due course. anyway, which brand doesn't have issues? only difference is owners of other brands will just swallow it and go about seeking redress in a civilised and mature kind of way. not mob rule.
back to the issue i mentioned above... without the critical mass on the roads, the franchise holder will then treat the brand like a niche product and overall, this will be bad for who? not the franchise holder. it is the peugeot owner who will suffer isn't it? franchise holder can just say 'oklah, these customers have too many problems with the brand... too many unresolved issues and sales are affected by bad mouthing out there..., let's just stop doing peugeot and look for another brand'. they can just switch brands right? it is a vicious cycle that must not continue before the owners themselves get hurt by their own actions. the proper way is to call the hotline (i'm sure all pug owners know this number by heart already by now) and ask to meet with the customer service boss. this is the proper way to do it if they are serious in wanting to do something. the 'watchers' are no longer going to bother about what is written in aw as nothing is ever forwarded to the proper channels. they may even look at those postings as slander. i mean, there are many ways to look at it lah.
well, that is just my 2 cents worth lah ;)
---------- Post added at 09:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 AM ----------
i'm not saying the cars are perfect, that the franchise holder is faultless and that the owners cannot whine and whinge but there are more appropriate ways to do it IF they take the effort. airing dirty laundry in public is like throwing a bag of s**t towards the fan... what happens next? everybody including the owners themselves gets hit."
I've got no comment to make. Bacalah sendiri...
__________________________________________________________
Hi Uncle,
I am sending you a comment found in a local car forum http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/euro/273579-any-peugeot-308-owners.html
"TR,
yeah. pug drivers in here are just a drop in the ocean!! hahaha :)
anyway guys, i have a bone to pick here.
i think the way aw pug forummers are highllighting issues are only going to shoot themselves in their foot one day... the issue will come back in other forms and bite them. i'll explain what i mean below.
how this happens is like this... they complain openly on the web... this is seen by the whole world, people will then worry about buying peugeot and what happens next? the buying stops and the owners die because - 1) franchise holder won't have volume already (of this won't happen overnight but those ppl in aw are themselves killing the brand by not doing things through the proper channels) 2) no volume = no spare parts availability (franchise holder needs to have volume to be confident to stock up on more parts) 3) no more easy parts = higher prices for parts 4) higher price for spare parts = bad resale value ... and so on and so forth lah. i'm sure you get the point.
so you see, the franchise holder is now trying to build up critical mass. yes there will be small issues here n there like the "to the left, to the left" and battery prices but these are small matters (i'm sure the owners don't think so now lah ;) ) in the grand scheme of things and i believe they will be solved in due course. anyway, which brand doesn't have issues? only difference is owners of other brands will just swallow it and go about seeking redress in a civilised and mature kind of way. not mob rule.
back to the issue i mentioned above... without the critical mass on the roads, the franchise holder will then treat the brand like a niche product and overall, this will be bad for who? not the franchise holder. it is the peugeot owner who will suffer isn't it? franchise holder can just say 'oklah, these customers have too many problems with the brand... too many unresolved issues and sales are affected by bad mouthing out there..., let's just stop doing peugeot and look for another brand'. they can just switch brands right? it is a vicious cycle that must not continue before the owners themselves get hurt by their own actions. the proper way is to call the hotline (i'm sure all pug owners know this number by heart already by now) and ask to meet with the customer service boss. this is the proper way to do it if they are serious in wanting to do something. the 'watchers' are no longer going to bother about what is written in aw as nothing is ever forwarded to the proper channels. they may even look at those postings as slander. i mean, there are many ways to look at it lah.
well, that is just my 2 cents worth lah ;)
---------- Post added at 09:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 AM ----------
i'm not saying the cars are perfect, that the franchise holder is faultless and that the owners cannot whine and whinge but there are more appropriate ways to do it IF they take the effort. airing dirty laundry in public is like throwing a bag of s**t towards the fan... what happens next? everybody including the owners themselves gets hit."
Automotive Marketing in Malaysia
Although communications is a part of marketing - marketing is NOT communications.
Although advertising is a part of marketing - marketing is NOT advertising.
Although sales is a part of marketing - marketing is NOT sales. And,
Although promotion is a part of marketing - marketing is NOT promotion.
So, what is marketing in automotive business? and what actually marketing people do?
Although advertising is a part of marketing - marketing is NOT advertising.
Although sales is a part of marketing - marketing is NOT sales. And,
Although promotion is a part of marketing - marketing is NOT promotion.
So, what is marketing in automotive business? and what actually marketing people do?
V-12 Engine without Timing Chain?
No timing chain, no electronics, no ECU, no coolant, nothing what so ever other than basic components but this uncle made it possible... and it is a V-12!
Watch this...
Watch this...
Timing Chain Pinion
The diagram below shows where timing chain pinion in EP6-DT engine is located.
(click on the image to enlarge)
Now, which of the following pictures do you think similar [in principle] to the pinion used in your EP6-DT engine?
I've got no further comment here. Please read my earlier postings about serious problems developed by the pinion design...
(click on the image to enlarge)Now, which of the following pictures do you think similar [in principle] to the pinion used in your EP6-DT engine?
I've got no further comment here. Please read my earlier postings about serious problems developed by the pinion design...
The World Should Know...
Feb 21, 2012
Morning
Went to a Peugeot authorised SC early this morning to see the progress on myPeugeot308 getting things fixed up as further described hereinafter.
Fortunately I was lucky to meet both, the Service Manager and the chief mechanics to confirm my 'allegations' on what I have been writing true.
I was 'honoured' to be taken for a tour in the fully packed workshop with over 30 Peugeots - either being serviced, repaired or just waiting for their turns. Mine was still in the Q even after day 8. I don't want to jump Q since nothing to complain for the delay as it looks like this particular workshop is full - where most Peugeot owners send their cars to get service/repair done here.
To my surprise, the truth was beyond my imagination. There was a worse case when the valve timing was totally out of synchronisation. In such case the piston hit the valves and damaging all of them! A few cars lying there with their engine on the floor waiting for the spare parts to arrive.
I left the SC and let them had a discussion among themselves and decide what to do on my car after 8 days lying there.
Afternoon
During lunch hour, the Service Manager at the authorised SC called me up. My place is located about 30km down south. I took a public transport and decided to take the car home because I knew myPeugeot308 turn would not be possible before end of February. Too many cars are already in the 'operating hall' while a few more still waiting for their turns.
I don't want myPeugeot308 to be exposed under intense tropical sun-rays and rain for another week or 2. On top of that I just want them to practise on other cars first; then we decided roughly the date for myPeugeot308 - subject to confirmation though...
Feb 19th 2012
Probably Peugeot/PSA has already realised and now I'm telling that certain batches if not all Peugeot THP engines have a serious design fault that timing chain pinion may slip and hence the engine loses its valve [and ignition?] timing.
Why Peugeot don't tell the truth?
Technically speaking, by looking at the design [pls refer to the illustration below]...
The timing chain pinion does not have a key and slot or any other way of locking into a fix position to the crankshaft except the pulley hub and bolt. You don't need to have a PhD or a Master Degree in mechanical engineering to figure out what would happen if the bolt become loose or elongated.Now, if "mysteriously" it does happen, there would be subsequent angular displacement for the relative position of the camshafts to the crankshaft hence altering timing. Now I would say it is the design fault. Peugeot should have recalled every effected engine and fix it. Unfortunately it did not happen and Peugeot is gambling with the aftermath.
How Peugeot/PSA should have fixed it?
Simple answer is to "redesign" the whole pulley hub, timing pinion and chain assembly. Anyway, I think PSA has already done so, after all they are not a bunch of idiots, are they?
Now, are you worried?
Well, when buying stops, worry can too!
Peugeot Recalls 308?
Peugeot would recall 308 over bolt problems in China - reported by the Xinhua News Agency in early 2010 .
The statement said that bolts for the right transmission shaft may cause vibration and noise that may affect driving. Those vehicles were imported into mainland China from France. Peugeot authorized service centers would send letters to car owners to arrange for repair, the statement said.
About two weeks later another story from Reuters - French carmaker PSA Peugeot Citroen would recall nearly 100,000 cars [fortunately, not 308] because they have accelerator-related problems ...
"... We are going to do a recall," said a PSA Peugeot Citroen spokesman.
Question to ponder:
What about timing mechanism problem for certain batches of Peugeot 308 THP?
Looks like they are handling just "case-by-case"? No recall exercise so far. I'm sure there would be a lot of cases will crop up especially when the warranty period is over.
The statement said that bolts for the right transmission shaft may cause vibration and noise that may affect driving. Those vehicles were imported into mainland China from France. Peugeot authorized service centers would send letters to car owners to arrange for repair, the statement said.
About two weeks later another story from Reuters - French carmaker PSA Peugeot Citroen would recall nearly 100,000 cars [fortunately, not 308] because they have accelerator-related problems ...
"... We are going to do a recall," said a PSA Peugeot Citroen spokesman.
Question to ponder:
What about timing mechanism problem for certain batches of Peugeot 308 THP?
Looks like they are handling just "case-by-case"? No recall exercise so far. I'm sure there would be a lot of cases will crop up especially when the warranty period is over.
Super Knocking!
I've been observing "Super Knocking" is a common problem associated with EP6-DT* engines. At the beginning it is not easy to detect by normal "feel" [or with "buttDyno"] because most of the time the ECU would regulate the combustion parameters accordingly to make the engine run as usual after it had sensed "knocking". Not withstanding, once happened, there is a high probability for a series of unfortunate events to happen which lead to a catastrophe.
The remedy could cost a fortune!
It is essential for you to haveOBD2 diagnostic tools ready all the time - as the "first aid" kit and lets you know what's happening in your car engine. The diagnostic tool normally comes as a stand alone device [OBD2 Scanner] or a set of ELM327 dongle and diagnostic software [for laptop] can be bought on-line cheaply nowadays. Some diagnostic software can even be downloaded for free!
The Causes of Engine Knock
Simple answer to engine knock is "Abnormal Combustion", but no one really knows exactly the reasons behind "super knocking". Based on what had happened to myPeugeot308 looks like the mechanics at an authorised SC is doing trial-and-error* method to solve it.
Episode 1 - Sept 3rd, 2011
Happened on my way back from Kelantan via Gerik. Just after Ipoh the car lost power. Set the car on autoCruise at 90kph for 20km. Power back again. Very powerful!. A week later the car was sent to an authorised SC to rectify the problem . A HPFP was replaced [foc]
Episode 2 - Nov 6th, 2011
Drove to Kelantan via KLipis. Happened again at the beginning of the trip but restored after Gombak Toll Plaza. Got all the power needed for Karak Highway
Episode 3 - Nov 8th, 2011
Loss power while driving from Kelantan towards Kuantan. It happened just after passing Jertih. Drove the car all the way to Kuantan at reduced power. Top speed on newly opened ECE2 was less than 180kph. Normally I did above 200kph there. The next day continued driving along coastal roads to JB. In JB the car was diagnosed for "mis-communication" between gearbox and the ECU hence fuel regulation fault detected - rich mixture at low load and lean mixture at high load.
Read more on the 1500-km misadventure HERE.
Episode 4 -Dec 12, 2011
Infamous "Intermittent power loss" happened again. This time more often than before. Sent the car to an authorised SC again. The mechanic suggested for top overhaul to change ignition and valve timing mechanisms including timing chain... sounded very scary. Spare parts not available. Got to wait. Drove the car back home. No more power loss after resetting the ECU but a couple of time the engine jerky briefly. Total count for ECU resetting done to date is FIVE...
Episode 5 - Feb 14th 2012
Spare Parts arrived. Sent the car again to get the work done.
*Note: I've heard they even offer engine replacement. Not in Malaya of course. Read HERE- but there are cases here in Malaya where cylinder heads had got to be replaced as a result of the "super knocking".
Better get it done during the warranty period. The time bomb is ticking. Yours could be next.
The remedy could cost a fortune!
It is essential for you to have
The Causes of Engine Knock
Simple answer to engine knock is "Abnormal Combustion", but no one really knows exactly the reasons behind "super knocking". Based on what had happened to myPeugeot308 looks like the mechanics at an authorised SC is doing trial-and-error* method to solve it.
Episode 1 - Sept 3rd, 2011
Happened on my way back from Kelantan via Gerik. Just after Ipoh the car lost power. Set the car on autoCruise at 90kph for 20km. Power back again. Very powerful!. A week later the car was sent to an authorised SC to rectify the problem . A HPFP was replaced [foc]
Episode 2 - Nov 6th, 2011
Drove to Kelantan via KLipis. Happened again at the beginning of the trip but restored after Gombak Toll Plaza. Got all the power needed for Karak Highway
Episode 3 - Nov 8th, 2011
Loss power while driving from Kelantan towards Kuantan. It happened just after passing Jertih. Drove the car all the way to Kuantan at reduced power. Top speed on newly opened ECE2 was less than 180kph. Normally I did above 200kph there. The next day continued driving along coastal roads to JB. In JB the car was diagnosed for "mis-communication" between gearbox and the ECU hence fuel regulation fault detected - rich mixture at low load and lean mixture at high load.
Read more on the 1500-km misadventure HERE.
Episode 4 -Dec 12, 2011
Infamous "Intermittent power loss" happened again. This time more often than before. Sent the car to an authorised SC again. The mechanic suggested for top overhaul to change ignition and valve timing mechanisms including timing chain... sounded very scary. Spare parts not available. Got to wait. Drove the car back home. No more power loss after resetting the ECU but a couple of time the engine jerky briefly. Total count for ECU resetting done to date is FIVE...
Episode 5 - Feb 14th 2012
Spare Parts arrived. Sent the car again to get the work done.
*Note: I've heard they even offer engine replacement. Not in Malaya of course. Read HERE- but there are cases here in Malaya where cylinder heads had got to be replaced as a result of the "super knocking".
Better get it done during the warranty period. The time bomb is ticking. Yours could be next.
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